
Join Sheryl Paul, a counselor informed by the Jungian depth psychological tradition, and her co-host Victoria Russell, as they dive into the realms of our inner worlds and explore actions we can take to grow more self-trust and self-love. These bi-weekly episodes will provide guidance for diminishing fear and shame, embracing sensitivity and creativity, and approaching life with curiosity and compassion.
Episodes

Friday Dec 22, 2023
Fairy Tales by the Fireside with Daev Finn
Friday Dec 22, 2023
Friday Dec 22, 2023
In this special episode, Sheryl's husband Daev Finn joins the show to continue our seasonal exploration of wintry themes. A psychotherapist who uses the metaphor of myth and fairy tales in his work, Daev offers his perspective on the Brothers Grimm telling of "Briar Rose" (otherwise known as "Sleeping Beauty").
Daev, Sheryl, and Victoria read the tale aloud, then share their reflections on themes of slumber, sexuality, growing up, and banishment. Daev offers perspective on the history of myths and fairytales and their problematic parts, Sheryl reflects on the treatment of powerful women in patriarchal narratives, and Victoria muses on how this tale cautions us to rethink banishing our inner "thirteenth fairy."
Find Daev on Instagram @followyourmyth
References:
- "Briar Rose" text
- Disney film Maleficent (2014)
- The myths of Psyche, Persephone, and Perceval
- The entitled prince vs. positive prince role models: Aladdin, Luke Skywalker, Kristoff from Frozen (2013)
- French author Charles Perrault
- Moana (2016)
- The story of the Buddha
- Protagonists with self-agency: "Hansel and Gretel", Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz, Alice in Alice in Wonderland, Harry Potter
- A non-binary hero(ine) in literature: Orlando, by Virginia Woolf
- Modern myth-makers Neil Gaiman, Joseph Campbell, and George Lucas
Music in this episode:
- Gathering Gold theme music by Jarrett Farkas
- "Glacier" by SalmonLikeTheFish

Friday Dec 08, 2023
Winter Solstice
Friday Dec 08, 2023
Friday Dec 08, 2023
We are approaching the shortest day and longest night of the year in the Northern hemisphere.
In preparation for the winter solstice, Sheryl invites us to anchor ourselves in time and find communion with the luminous dark.
How might we celebrate the triumph of light, the gift of the sun, while also welcoming the wisdom of darkness?
How might we balance the need to rest and turn inward with the need to brave the cold, to go out into the world?
How can we cultivate peace within ourselves in the face of all that is treacherous in this world—including the double-edged winter months, with their shimmer and ice, their harshness and beauty?
This is what we invite you to explore with us in today’s episode, and at our upcoming Patreon Meet-Up on December 21st.
References:
- Gathering Gold Patreon (sign up for the Meet-Up Member tier to join our virtual meet-ups)
- Darkness and Light episode
- Winter’s Paradox episode
- Francis Weller
- Effort and Ease episode

Friday Nov 17, 2023
Social Anxiety
Friday Nov 17, 2023
Friday Nov 17, 2023
We all know the feeling: jitters before a birthday party. Melting into the wall during a wedding reception. Obsessing over that awkward hug you gave at the potluck.
Everyone has their moments of social anxiety, but some of us suffer with it more chronically, perhaps managing a mixture of avoidance and overcompensation. We might worry that we are too quiet or too loud, too boring or too obnoxious—somehow just not right. Our fear of others’ judgment interweaves with our own harsh inner critic.
While humans are apt to underestimate how much people like us, we also all have had experiences of rejection that left scars. Highly sensitive people, introverted people, and people with anxiety have our own particular fear of being shunned because of our difference.
In today’s episode, Sheryl shares stories of her own past social scars that have contributed to social anxiety across her life, from getting kicked out a clique in fifth grade to feeling invisible in her synagogue in recent years.
In this conversation, we dig into the soil of social anxiety to find the gems hidden under layers of sediment: our genuineness and our capacity to care and love.
References:
- Episode of Hidden Brain, “How Others See You”
- Matt Haig quote: “Never be cool. Never try to be cool. Never worry what the cool people think. Head for the warm people. Life is warmth. You’ll be cool when you’re dead.”

Friday Nov 03, 2023
Work and Career Anxiety
Friday Nov 03, 2023
Friday Nov 03, 2023
Highly sensitive people bring many gifts to work, and we also face unique challenges—including a persistent longing to bridge the gap between our ideals and the reality of our work life.
Whether we are full-time caregivers, lawyers, teachers, baristas, artists, or project managers, we might wonder: am I on the right path? Do I belong in this field? Might the grass be greener somewhere else?
We have also been conditioned to believe that our work, our career, is a reflection of our worthiness. This can keep us stuck in a myriad of ways: we might fear that we don’t deserve to even try for a career that we’re deeply interested in, or we might struggle to leave a role that isn’t a good fit simply because it’s prestigious.
In today’s episode, we’re exploring questions around work and career anxiety, including how to show up fully in a good enough job, and how to manage anxiety when it's time to make a career transition.

Friday Oct 20, 2023
The Witching Hour
Friday Oct 20, 2023
Friday Oct 20, 2023
The witching hour: a time in the middle of the night when we sometimes wake from a potent dream or nightmare, eyes wide in the darkness, heart and body filled with something--fear or grief, regret or restlessness, poems or prayers.
In today's episode, we discuss this mysterious portal and how we might find gold glittering in the darkest hours before dawn.
References:
- “Dedicated to the One I Love,” by the Mamas and the Papas
- Britannica definition of “Witching Hour”
- Wise Child, by Monica Furlong
- Dreamworker Jeremy Taylor
- Sheryl’s blog posts about "The Witching Hour," with cited comment by Kim

Friday Oct 06, 2023
Sheryl’s Conscious Transition
Friday Oct 06, 2023
Friday Oct 06, 2023
In today’s special episode, Sheryl shares her story of navigating a major transition over the past year: ushering her eldest son out of the nest and into college far from home.
Sheryl shares passages from her journal that detail how she rode the waves of grief, reached for support, and found relief after bringing Everest to school and adjusting to home life without him.
And, she and Victoria discuss some of the pillars that hold up highly sensitive people during the micro and momentous transitions throughout life.
References:
Elizabeth Bishop’s poem “One Art”
Khalil Gibran’s poem “Your children are not your children”

Friday Sep 29, 2023
Golden Nugget Minisode - Olivia’s Update
Friday Sep 29, 2023
Friday Sep 29, 2023
We hope you enjoy today's "Golden Nugget" mini-episode! We're sharing a voicemail from our lovely listener Olivia, who asked the question that inspired our episode Expectations, Emotions, and Very Big Days.
Listen in to hear what happened for Olivia and her partner after she submitted her question, listened to the episode, and sat with the uncertainty of how to approach her wedding day and marriage anxieties.
Visit our Patreon to learn more about submitting voicemails and enjoying future Golden Nugget mini-sodes: www.patreon.com/gatheringgold

Friday Sep 15, 2023
Healing Shame
Friday Sep 15, 2023
Friday Sep 15, 2023
Many of us feed our shame with the very food that makes it grow: criticism and cruelty that inspires deeper disconnection and despair. We think that we can control and punish ourselves into perfection, that we can banish our exiled parts into the shadowlands and transcend hurt and vulnerability.
And yet, if we take the risk to feed our shame with love, acceptance, and compassion, we will see what’s underneath: a young, soft part of ourselves who is here to help us heal.
How do we find that love and compassion and heal our shame?
This is what we explore in today’s episode.
References:
- Feeding Your Demons
- Queer Eye
- Heartstopper
- Sap and Feel Good
- Sounds True webinar about Internal Family Systems (with Elizabeth Gilbert and Jonathan Van Ness)
- Harm reduction movement
- Ted Lasso
- Never Have I Ever
- Dr. Kristin Neff
- Carl Rogers

Gathering Gold
Join Sheryl Paul, a counselor informed by the Jungian depth psychological tradition, and her co-host Victoria Russell, as they dive into the realms of our inner worlds and explore actions we can take to grow more self-trust and self-love. These bi-weekly episodes will provide guidance for diminishing fear and shame, embracing sensitivity and creativity, and approaching life with curiosity and compassion.